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Fusion
Nov 26 2006Was a really really good weekend. I have no idea where to start!!
Well we got to sleep on Saturday morning at 3. I was sleeping on this HUUUUUUUUUUUUGE blow up bed, it was practically a bunk bed the size of it. It was really comfortable though! Adam and Adam were in Dan’s room along with him and his brother, and Clare Ruth was on a sofa. Clare Ruth and I were up at half 7, as Dan told us, but the guys in Dan’s room wouldn’t wake up, so we ended up being late for the Saturday morning stuff! We arrived just as Frog Orr-Ewing (strange name!!!) was starting his talk (Learning to Accept), so we didn’t miss that at least! After that talk, we had a coffee break and then another talk by Gabriel Smy called Learning to Explore/See, and then lunch time. We had packed lunches (rolls and crisps etc) that Dan’s mum had kindly made for us.
After lunch we had 3 seminar sessions, and we had to pick between 5 seminars each session. I went to a seminar on “Everyday lifestyle” by Susie Gallagher, all about ethical living, etc. After that we went to talk about “Understanding Islam” by Frog, but during that I didn’t really listen, for some reason I felt like writing this:
I don’t understand how people can live in a world full of such amazing beauty and believe that it all came to be by chance. I only have to step outside and look at the sky, tress, nature, and think how incredible it is that God thought of and created it. Especially the stars – on a clear night, I love being outside where I can look up at the pitch black sky and see it pierced with small pin pricks of light millions of miles away. The stars and the moon in the night sky is one of the most beautiful sights, yet for many people it means nothing more than the product of chance, when in fact it is much more than that – it is a personal creation by God, by His own hand – He made every single one with love and care, and He knows every single one by name. And I find that amazing, incredible, and it makes me feel very small and insignificant in such a huge and wonderful world.
One of my favourite hobbies is photography. I don’t claim to know what I’m doing and I certainly don’t claim to be any good, but I know that what I want to do is capture snapshots of God’s creation, moments that are there one minute and gone the enxt. Photographs can save these moments more vividly than a memory can.
Many people don’t see much of the beautiful world – those who live in large cities, in countries in war – but who knows, maybe someone will see a photograph of God’s creation one day, and maybe it will change their lives.
I don’t know why I wrote that, I just felt like it!!
The evening session was the best talk by far. Roger Forster was a really good speaker, talking about “Learning to Fly”, and it was really interesting. There was some good worship afterwards as well. But by far the best worship was Friday evening, it was a really awesome time of worship, just brilliant.
We got back to Dan’s at some point that night but I don’t think we went to bed at about 1. Clare Ruth and I woke up at half 7 the next morning (as we had been told to by Dan) but the guys didn’t wake up til 9, and the sessions started at 9!! So by the time got there the morning session “Learning to Pray” was already over! But the main morning one, the one with the normal church congregation there, was at half 10, and was “Learning to Play”, but unfortunately I was asleep throughout the whole sermon – really shouldn’t have been lying on the floor with a cushion under my head!
After that we went to Toni and Chris’s house, was good to finally put a face to the blog! Then we went down to Dan’s church for their service (16:00, weird time for a service!) and it was good to meet some of Dan’s friends… like Livi? Did I spell or even get that right?! After that we rushed to Dan’s, gathered our stuff, and rushed to the train station, and here I am now.
All around the room at King’s Centre there were the words of Isaiah 40 in huge letters around the wall, and I now have the last verse on my wall as a big frieze (or however you spell it): They will soar on wings like eagles, they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint.
Ineke
i love it wen u go and tlk bout God’s creation and stuff, u shud b writing a book :P :)
glad u had a gd weekend :)
sorry uv gota put up with me this weekend :( :P
Dan
Yeah and some of the photos are pretty awesome as well :)
And how did you find the talk in the service this morning? :)
Ineke
also
” I don’t claim to know what I’m doing and I certainly don’t claim to be any good”
stop talkin such tosh! ur gr8 :D
Livi!!
Hey yes, you got it right, I am Livi! Or Olivia, whichever way.
Someone else appreciates the sky then! I love looking up in sheer awe ate what God has put there. It’s so amazing! I’m not a brilliant astronomer, but I love looking at the sky at night, or in day for that matter.
It was great to meet you, though it’s a shame you all had to head off.
Next time stay for coffee!
God bless, love Livi
Karl
Ben,
I don’t understand how people can believe in God without proof. Many believers in God claim they have proof (albeit specific to them). I get the feeling that a lot of people simply think ‘The world can’t have come about by chance, therefore God must exist’, but that line of thought seems illogical to me.
We know that the conditions for life are pretty specific, but once life starts it’s actually pretty good at surviving, even in harsh conditions. If you can accept that we live in a Universe which (for all intents and purposes) is infinite, then the conditions for life have to occur an infinite number of times. Even if we assume that the Universe isn’t infinite (but ridiculously huge) then there’s still plenty of opportunity for life.
So the next argument: Why here? Well, for us to be here, life must have happened. We’re priveledged. We couldn’t be anywhere else! It had to happen somewhere, and for us to be here, that place must be here (and probably many other places too!).
That’s my take on it. I often wish I could have your faith, though!
Either way, why can’t chance be beautiful?
How do I see some of your photography anyway? lol
Ben
Here’s one of my Flickr sets but I did say that I wasn’t very good!
And yes I can see your point, Karl, but to me, this world is such fantastic beauty and incredibly complex that I just see God’s beauty in it everywhere. We’re all different! But personally I can appreciate everything so much more when I believe that it was created by intelligent design…
For many Christians, it’s not about creation, and it’s not about the wonder of God’s ability to design and create and awe us… It’s about the personal relationship we have with Him, and I know that personally I feel something about God that I don’t feel when it comes to anything else. If anything, He’s the hope we have to live by and I chose to have that hope.
But even if God hadn’t created the world I’d still believe in him so the point is moot really!
Hehe I love that word – moot.
Karl
As much as you appreciate all the good, you must also appreciate all the bad, also put there by God? Doesn’t that kind of balance it out? I believe it’s only when the actions of people are involved that you get more good than bad (as I believe people are inherently good).
As for your personal relationship – this is why I often wish I had your faith! It would certainly change my life, but I don’t believe I ever could, as I’d feel like I was lying to myself.
Anyway, I’ll stop hijacking your blog comments now!
Ben
Lol don’t worry about hijacking them, it makes my blog look popular!
And yes there is all the bad in the world, but that wasn’t put there by God. That comes back to the whole free will/devil issue. I believe that when the actions of people are involved, yes you get good, but you can also get bad, and more often than not you get bad.
Dan
You know it’s seriously interesting reading these comments having used to be on Karl’s side of the fence for longer in my life to date than I have been a Christian, dun dun dur! Lol.
Anyway, I think Ben touched on this but basically it doesn’t actually matter much to us generally. What is important is the personal relationship we have with Jesus and that when push comes to shove he is there, believe when I say I have arguably extreme experience of this.
TBH I think a lot of it is simply curiosity for us all and that given the data you can easily see whichever side of the debate you choose to.
As for people, the problem arises as people have differing opinions of good such as recent wars?
Ben
Yea, Dan Hadland put it into the right words! That’s what I was trying to say.
It’s all about the personal relationship with Jesus. It’s not about the great things He has done in the world, it’s about the great things He has done in our own lives. Dan Hadland has a brilliant testimony, he has every reason not to believe… Yet God has shown Himself to Dan Hadland in many ways in his own life and Dan Hadland chooses to believe! It’s all about our relationship with God.
Toni
Good to have you guys over BTW. Likewise about putting faces to names.